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Stanford University's Larry Diamond on Russia, China, and the "new Cold War"

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Larry Diamond, a professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Ill Winds: Saving Democracy from Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency.In this episode:Diamond’s background studying the development and failure of democracies; authoritarian regimes and the internet; why the book is called “Ill Winds”; the right-wing populist backlash across Europe; the deeper frustrations underneath anti-immigration sentiment; why Hillary Clinton lost the electoral college; how Russia, the "fallen superpower," is intervening in elections around the world; Mitch McConnell's obstinacy; "pretty close to treason"; the "risk of sliding into a new Cold War"; why China is the bigger threat in the long term; its tight control of Chinese citizens and companies; how will its rise affect US policy?; how China's people will react when the prosperity stops; declining American investment in R&D; "sleepwalking into the future"; how two-party politics have paralyzed the US; Diamond's proposed solution, ranked-choice voting; the danger of online voting; and the fight against gerrymandering, voter suppression, and polarization.Came here from The Bill Simmons Podcast? We rounded up a few favorite episodes we think fans of The Ringer will enjoy. Take a look!Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostLarry Diamond (@LarryDiamond), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants




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